Holden and Jimbo
Describe and discuss the parallels and disfluencies (differences) between Holden, in The Catcher in the Rye, and characters and situation in A Rebel Without a Cause.
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Thursday, April 15, 2010
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Holden and Jimbo seem to share many of the same traits and it is clear that Rebel Without a Cause was modeled after The Catcher in the Rye. First the movie opens up as Jim switches schools and the Catcher in the Rye opens with Holden switching schools as well. Holden and Jimbo not seem to share a common trait of hating society and are both mainly loners. Jim though seems more tolerant of society then Holden as Jim does ha e friends and does attract women. I see Jimbo as a more polished Holden . Jim also has a breakdown where he cries about his father and his position in society and I think this is very similar to when Holden breaks down and cries at the caroseoul
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Holden in The Catcher in the Rye is similar to Jim in Rebel Without a Cause because they're both always moving - Holden switches schools and Jim gets into fights, so he moves. Holden and Jim also both get into trouble. Holden likes to drink, smoke, and just generally misbehave, while Jim is always getting into fights and he plays chicken. Another similarity is how they both strive to make a connection with someone - Holden doesn't like to admit it, but he knows it deep down, but Jim openly tries to fit in. Holden never succeeds, but Jim does - he finds Judy. A difference between Jim and Holden is the cause of their actions. Jim likes to act out of courage, like when he plays chicken or when he saved Plato. Holden mostly acts on impulse but occasionally bravery, like when he stood up for himself against Maurice. Another difference is Holden's and Jim's values. Holden wants to hold on to innocence, while Jim couldn't care less - he just wants to do something right.
In The Catcher in the Rye, Holden is a confused teenager boy chasing innocence. In Rebel Without a Cause, the main character Jimbo is certainly confused, but seems to have more of a purpose than Holden. Holden and Jimbo share very unique similarities. First of all, Holden is hypocritical and jumps from one idea to the next while Jim does much of the same. However similar, they are also different. In the Movie, Jimbo wants to do the right things and is a little more open minded. To contrast, in the book, Holden desires innocence for himself and those that are close to him.
Holden, from The Catcher and the Rye, and Jim, AKA Jimbo from Rebel without a cause, definitely have parallels and disfluencies in the relationships that they build. Holden is pretty much a certified crazy person, and yet, when Pheobe needs him the most he's always there for here acting as that protective big brother figure. For example, Phoebe asks Holden to be at her school play and there he automatically agrees to go as a big brother. In addition, when Holden sees all the F-you's written up on the walls Holden instantly thinks of Phoebe and protecting her. This same situation happens with Jimbo. He's pretty much a crazy person too because he got taken to the police office for being drunk and acting loco. But when Plato needs him when Plato's going crazy, Jimbo is always right there to be that protective figure for him, guiding and showing him what to do. Although Holden and Jimbo are very similar in this circumstance, Holden is technically Phoebe's older brother so that protective manor of his is no question, but Jimbo doesn't have any relation to this Plato boy, so Jimbo is just taking over that protective role out of the goodness of his heart.
The Catcher in the Rye is similar to the movie Rebel Without a Cause in which both take place around the same time, the 1950s(ish). Also, Holden and Jim both have living parents who are alive but hardly ever take care of their kid’s wants and needs. And as said before, both change school often. However, Holden changes schools because he doesn’t try; whereas, Jim is forced to switch schools because he gets in fights. Holden is not accepted by the kids his age and neither is Jim. They are constantly looking for refuge under the protection of people. Jim finds Judy, but Holden surrenders to the lonely world that has became his life. Another difference is that Jim is mentally stable. Holden, however, is not. But Holden’s mental insecurity is similar to Jim’s friend Plato. The Catcher in the Rye is based around one main character, Holden. And Rebel Without a Cause is based off The Catcher in the Rye. In Rebel Without a Cause, the characteristics that make up Holden are distributed between Jim and Plato (although more to Jim). One last similarity between the two is that Holden gave James Castle his sweater. James Castle died in the sweater. Similarly, Jim provided Plato with his jacket moments before his untimely death.
Holden and Jimbo are similar in certain ways, they are also both very different. Holden and Jimbo both have parents, but their parents don't play a big roll in their kids lives. The parents kind of do their own thing. Also, both Holden and Jimbo try to fit in and make friends with people. Even though they are both shut down for the most part. They are also different. Jimbo seems a lot more caring than Holden does. One can tell that deep down Jimbo wants to do the right thing and help people out. While, Holden is not satisfied with anyone and he just does his own thing. Jimbo acts like a true friend. When Plato needs him, Jimbo is there for him and tries to calm him down. Holden never acted this courageous.
Holden and Jimbo relate to eachother very well and it is made clear in "Rebel Without a Cause." Holden as well as Jim both believe their parents to be in a sense phony. Holden thinks that being an adult ruins your childhood inncocence. Jim thinks believes that his father is a coward and this idea explores the idea of adults being phony. THe idea of Holden and Jim is explored throughout the movie in many of Jim's actions.
Jim and Plato are characters that both are a like Holden. Jim is like Holden by being the strong Holden that tries to find out what he needs to do with his life. Holden never knew the right thing to do in a stiuation because he didn't have guidance from anyone to help him like Jim's parents would never help him in the movie. This led them to doing bad things. Plato is like Holden by being the one who is lonely and makes bad decisions. Holden was very lonely and thought everyone was phony so he did no have any friends he liked. He only liked Phoebe and his brother Alie. Just like Plato only liked Jim and Judy and what they said meant a lot to him. Both Of the characters in the movie both needed guidance in order to grow up and make the right choices. Just like Holden did not know how to grow up and he needed guidance.
Holden and Jim both fancy the color Red, Jim's jacket and Holden's hunting hat. The also both give it away to someone they care for, Holden to Phoebe and Jim to Plato. Judy's family issue is the same as Holden's, their parents both pay more attention to there youngest child. Also both Holden and Jim are pacifists, but they both have situations in which violence is forced upon them and neither of those situations benefit them. Holden's fight with Maurice and Jim's fight with the group leader at his high school.
Jimbo and Holden really have a lot of similar traits and you are able to see that the book and movie are resembled after one another. In the Catcher in the Rye, Holden seemed to switch schools a lot just as Jimbo did at the opening of the movie. They both seem to have that girl in their life that they love and are able to be around. Holden has his younger sister Phoebe and Jimbo has Judy, his girlfriend. Also, before Plado had got shot, Jimbo gave him his jacket. Holden did the same for James Castle before he had died. Another similarity was that they both didn't really like violence but they got into a lot of trouble. The differences between the two characters was that Jimbo didn't have those younger siblings to be around or someone that would look up to him but Holden had that in his life. I think a younger brother would make Jimbo feel much better because he has someone to teach and bring up. Most of their diffeences were more personal life than anything so the movie and book really have a lot of things in common but also shows some differences in characters.
I think Holden and Jimbo have similar issues, but I think there personalities are different. Holden and Jimbo both have problems at home and are misunderstood and they both move around often. But I think Jimbo see's the glass as half full and Holden see's it half empty. See most of Jimbo's anger and frustration comes from his mother moving him around so much, but Holden's has had problem since he was young. They both are similar because they do not conform to society, but Jim tries to conform more then Holden.
Holden and Jim are very similar however they have some different qualities. Holden and Jim have a lot of trouble with friends and family. Neither of them like when others pick on them, which leads them to getting in fights. Holden and Jim have both moved around a lot in their lives. Holden gets kicked out of schools because he doesn't try at all. Jim has to move because he starts fights with everyone at school. Holden and Jim also have protection issues. They both have someone to protect and someone they would do anything for. Jim has Plato and Holden has Phoebe. These two boys are basically the same person. However, Jim is more emotionally stable and mature. Holden is extremely unstable and immature. Holden acts like he's 13, even though he's almost an adult. Jim may not be 100% stable, but he is a lot more stable than Holden. These two boys are very similar however they have their differences.
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Holden and Jimbo are very similar because they share they same past and present issues of rebellion against society. Both have always moved around and were never able to create a foundation and make friends. Because of the constant traveling, the relationships between their parents have plummeted, and they feel no one completely understands them, or no one wants to understand them. While Holden is struggling to remain a child, Jimbo struggles to fight for his honor in proving his maturity. This is where their paths divide. Holden wants to forever be that young, immature being who believes the world still is not exactly perfect, but well off.However, the responsibilities and expectations his parents grant him causes him to want to escape from his life. While Jimbo wants to remove himself of his father's immaturity, or cowardly behavior, and tries to distant himself from his own family. Holden and Jimbo may have similarities that seem to blend with each other, but their personalities and outlooks on life make both boys the slight antithesis of each other. Jimbo wants to protect, and he wants to take on the responsibilities that his father never took, this is why he has a strong connection to his friends and even acts as their father; yet he also wants to stand out and be seen, this is why he tries to get attention of the wrong crowd. Holden also wants to protect, for example Phoebe and Jane, but he also wants to not necessarily disappear from life, but from where he is. An example would be his attempt to run away. Even though they have differences, their similarities causes them to seem almost as if they were the same character.
Holden and Jim have many of the same traits. Throughout the book and the movie they both go through a lot of the same things. They are both social outcasts and they don't seem to be bothered about it. In The Catcher in the Rye, Holden was very against violence and adulthood, and in Rebel WIthout A Cause, Jim was not for violence either especially during the knife fight. Holden showed a strong feeling of hatred to men being feminine and when Jim's father was wearing his mothers apron, he had a fit and told him to stick up for himself. Also, Holden had given his jacket to Jim Castle and Jim Castle died wearing it and Jim gave his jacket to Plato and he ended up being shot in it. It is very apparent that Rebel Without a Cause was based of off The Catcher in the Rye because of all of these similarities of the main characters.
There are many parallels and differences between Holden and the characters in A Rebel Without a Cause. Judy and Holden are similar because Judy's parents seemed to love her younger sister more than they loved her. Holden can relate to this because it seems that Allie was loved more than Holden was. Plato and Holden also have similarities. They both are somewhat crazy and they both think that no one in the world love or understand them. Jim and Holden were both told to become men. The difference between the two is that Jim has sane moments were as Holden is on the brink of insanity all of the time.
Holden and Jim have many parallels in their stories of one day's events. They both resent phonies and wish people were better and stronger. The difference of this parallel, however, is that Holden wishes people were better natured, while Jim wishes they were stronger. However, a major difference between the two spiritual warriors is that Jim refuses to give in and be "yellow". When he is challenged to a chicken run, he does not back out but faces it head on. Holden is a hypocrite and fails to meet his own standards because he is unwilling to fight. Also, both characters come to a realization that is life changing. Holden realizes that he cannot let Phoebe run away and Jim realizes that he must turn himself in for his involvement in Buzz's death.
Holden and jimbo have obvious similarities in that they have lived and experienced many of the same adventures. From the beginning of each story both characters are swapping schools, pointing out their inability to thrive in a structured environment. Smaller similarities are just the beginning to the parallels , "rebel without a cause" and "The Catcher in the Rye" both share. A few similarties are the red hat to the red jacket, the seemingly stable friend who shows their true colors towards the end of the book, and parents that just don't seem to understand the lives of their children.
I wasn't there to see the whole movie, but what I saw was a a real version of Holden. They both seem to have lost faith in the world and always resort to leaving their home. Holden switches schools, Jim moves to a different city. I was able to witness who Holden was in the movie because Jim seemed so bipolar and couldn't keep himself together. The only difference between them is that there is no real cause for Jims actions. Holden is out of wack because of Allie's death.
Holden and Jim are definitely very similar along with being slightly different. One evident similarity from the beginning of the movie Rebel Without a Cause is Jim's jacket and Holden's hat. Both symbols represent a sort of comfort that is received from relationships with others. Both stories have a public educational setting within the plot, such as Holden's museum and Jim's planetarium. However, one location suggests things living forever (the museum), and the other describes an eventual death (the planetarium). There is no doubt, also, that Holden is similar to Jim through their shared desire to drink and break the rules. It seems that the combination of Jim and his friend, Plato, is equivalent to the character of Holden in that Jim is the outgoing, sincere side of Holden, and Plato is the nervous, self-conscience side of Holden. Though sad, this is probably why Plato dies in the end. Like Holden, the apprehensive side of the two-sided character dies, but unlike in The Catcher in the Rye, the change was caused by an outside force, while Holden's change was self driven.
in both the story and the movie, the characters both have to try and prove themselves for one. Secondly, both of the guys do illegal things to either prove themselvs, or drown out their sorrows
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